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Scott Pryor's avatar

Superb summary conclusion to challenging series.

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The whole debate is ridiculous. Jesus saves people in the exact same manner if they have done countless good things in their life or if they have been what the world would consider awful. This is because we are all inherently born with a sin nature and with the curse of Adam. Beyond there is no one that does good one hundred percent of the time and never does evil. And the smallest contamination of sin makes one unrighteous to God. The result is that everyone is saved in the same manner if they have any "works" or not. I know unsaved people who absolutely cannot wrap their head around this concept -- but it's absolutely true. They cannot fathom how a totally awful person could in their last minutes of life accept Jesus as their savior and go to heaven. Because they are so used to the concept of judging people by "works" they believe that such a bad person simply could not be saved.

On the flip side, after someone is saved, they remain saved even if they do no good works whatsoever. Now, if someone is authentically saved there is a huge probability that they will produce at least some quantity of good works because their fundamental nature will have shifted towards the Spirit which is full of compassion for everyone. However, there are also people who get saved, perhaps start to turn their lives around for a few days or weeks, and then get pulled right back into the world. They were as legitimately saved as anyone else! And if they go thirty or forty years living the same lifestyle, they're still saved! But they are "dead" in that their "faith" that saved them isn't doing themselves or anyone else any further or additional good.

The optimum way for a Christian to live is to obey the Holy Spirit, resist the temptations of the flesh, and do good works -- everything that could be considered loving God with all your heart and your neighbor as yourself!!! If someone gets saved and then lives a faithful life of charitable service to others while obeying all the commandments is doing something wonderful: but he or she is no more "saved" than the person who did NOTHING!!!

That's the key here. There is only one kind of being saved. And it doesn't depend on works at all. However, if someone wants to live the most optimum and empowered Christian life possible, they will do good works in order to show their love for their neighbor and earn rewards in heaven. But they won't be doing so to somehow earn their way in!

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